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Seeking advice: when collecting the product in distillation operations, should it be based on achieving stability through full reflux, or should it be determined by analyzing the composition of the condensate?

2019-09-04View Original

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This post was last edited by Hai Zhi Ye on 2019-9-4 at 15:00. Dear experts, I’m a beginner in the chemical industry and don’t know how to carry out production processes. Seeking advice: when collecting the product in distillation operations, should it be based on achieving stability through full reflux, or should it be determined by analyzing the composition of the condensate? Do the operators continuously take samples to analyze the composition of the condensate once full reflux stabilization is achieved during distillation startup? When is the right time to harvest the product? Thank you first
Reply #22019-09-04
Full reflux sampling doesn’t make much sense; it should be product sampling instead
Reply #32019-09-04
Thank you. I thought it was to take a sample to check the composition of the reflux liquid; if its composition met the product requirements, then part of the liquid would be recycled to obtain the product, otherwise the entire amount would be recycled
Reply #42019-09-04
I haven’t been involved in the actual process; I just think that sampling with full reflux doesn’t provide sufficient information. It’s likely not necessary to pay too much attention to the composition at this stage. Once it’s in operation, it’s necessary to switch to controlling the reflux ratio in order to determine the effectiveness.
Reply #52019-09-04
Once full reflux is stabilized and the process parameters meet the requirements, sampling for analysis is necessary. Analyze the qualified produced products. I’m not sure what you mean by condensate The overhead component is what needs to be analyzed
Reply #62019-09-05
After full reflux is established, samples of the condensate at the top of the tower are taken continuously for analysis in order to determine whether its composition meets the requirements for extraction. In the case of intermittent distillation, it is necessary to determine, based on the process parameters, what level of concentration is required in order to collect the initial fractions and the main fraction. Sampling for testing must be carried out frequently during this process; when the boiling point of the material or its concentration in the reactor reaches a certain value, collection should be stopped. In the case of continuous distillation, there are generally no precursor impurities; production begins as soon as the components meet the required standards. The draw rates at the top of the tower, the feed rate, and the draw rate at the bottom of the tower are adjusted to maintain system stability.
Reply #72019-09-05
There is an approximate threshold for the tower top temperature, or the reflux ratio; once this threshold is reached, a sample is taken to analyze the product obtained from the top of the tower. If the quality is not satisfactory, the tower top temperature is adjusted further until the required standard is met
Reply #82019-09-05
1. Full reflux operation is only a phase at the beginning of operation; as material balance is established, although it does not appear so on the surface, the liquid level in the reflux tank is actually rising. When the liquid accumulates to a certain level, it must be extracted.
Reply #92019-09-05
2. Using analysis is like the eyes in the chemical industry; when you are not familiar with a substance, it is necessary to take samples for analysis in order to determine whether it meets the required standards. However, once you have accumulated a certain level of operational experience, you can determine whether the materials are qualified based on your operating conditions.
Reply #102019-09-05
With the first two points, you should have the answer now.

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