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50-60% alcohol (methanol or ethanol), with the rest being water, along with a small amount of acids and bases – can this be measured with a pH meter?

2022-06-20View Original

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50-60% alcohol (methanol or ethanol), with the rest being water, along with a small amount of acids and bases – can this be measured with a pH meter?
Reply #22022-06-20
What can it measure? A pH meter can certainly measure pH, but it can’t measure concentration
Reply #32022-06-21
This post was last edited by qugd on 2022-6-21 at 10:15. The trend in the acidity or alkalinity of the measuring medium is fine, but the range of pH changes differs from that in aqueous media; therefore, comparative tests using similar media are necessary. In other words, the neutral point of acidity/alkalinity for your current medium is not necessarily 7 – it could be some other value away from 7, as the product of the ion concentrations of hydrogen ions and hydroxide ions in non-aqueous media is not 10-14, but some other value. Non-aqueous media have their own characteristics, and the trends observed in aqueous media serve only as a reference.
Reply #42022-06-21
Potentiometric titration is recommended, unless you know exactly what type of acid and base it is.
Reply #52022-06-22
Depending on actual needs, a pH meter can be used to measure acidity and alkalinity, or titration can be employed for this purpose. The former is rough, the latter is accurate.
Reply #62022-09-21
It should be possible. Our sister unit deals with methanol and ethanol, which have concentrations ranging from 50% to 90%; the rest is water. The temperature is 65 degrees, and the pH level remains below 14. We use an online pH meter for this purpose
Reply #72022-09-22
I agree with the opinions in post #4. Both methanol and ethanol are miscible with water. When a pH meter is used to measure the pH value of mixtures containing a high proportion of organic substances and water, along with small amounts of acids or bases, it can only provide a qualitative indication of whether the solution is acidic or alkaline; quantitative determination based on the measured pH value is not accurate. For water-containing mixture systems that are immiscible or only partially miscible, and provided that the pH meter is installed in the aqueous phase, the measured pH value is generally reliable.

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