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Reasons for a lower offer during an interview and how to respond to the interviewer?

2015-06-18View Original

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Let LZ go first: 1. I’ve encountered HR professionals who say the company has a strict salary policy and can only offer so much (which is pretty low anyway), and then they talk about how great their own company is. I replied directly: The company is so good, why are the employees’ benefits so poor? What does it have to do with employees for a company to be good? 2. LZ has been working for three years. During an interview at a certain company, they said that they were currently trying to build up a pool of talent for the company; if LZ joined them, they would still need to spend *half a year learning various standards and regulations, and wouldn’t be able to contribute any value at all. That’s why the salary offered was low. . . . . . . . Reply: Since it’s about building up the company’s talent pool, and it’s graduation season with plenty of fresh graduates reaching out to you, why do you have to hire from the outside market and also try to keep salaries at 2,000–3,000? PS: The average salary for ordinary workers in factories in the area is around 5,000 to 6,000; so what’s the point of going to school then?
Reply #22015-06-18
Let LZ go first: (LZ=original poster?) Laozi? ) 1. I’ve encountered HR professionals who say the company has a strict salary policy and can only offer a certain amount (which is quite low), while at the same time talking up how great their own company is. I replied directly: The company is so good, why are the employees’ benefits so poor? What does it have to do with employees for a company to be good? That means the talks failed! In my opinion, HR staff may not be aware of the company’s main business activities; especially when discussing more in-depth topics, their role is merely to meet the staffing needs of the departments that require employees. Employee benefits are poor, but there might be perks! The company is doing well and believes it has strong competitiveness, allowing it to select talents freely. However, in reality, the company and the talents generally never meet each other, which leads to a shortage of such talents. Cheap labor is liked by HR, but not by the departments that use the staff, due to their poor skills ; High labor costs are not liked by HR, as they increase the costs of operating the company; however, the departments that need staff appreciate them, as employees can start working right away, and new working methods and management approaches are introduced, fostering communication, interaction, and improvement. Let me tell you in secret: being so arrogant like this will cause the HR officer from their company to call your current employer, and you’ll face serious consequences. 2. LZ has been working for three years. During an interview at a certain company, they said that they were currently trying to build up a pool of talent for the company; if LZ joined them, they would still need to spend *half a year learning various standards and regulations, and wouldn’t be able to contribute any value at all. That’s why the salary offered was low. . . . . . . . Reply: Since it’s about building up the company’s talent pool, and it’s graduation season with plenty of fresh graduates reaching out to you, why do you have to hire from the outside market and also try to keep salaries at 2,000–3,000? They never wanted you at all! If the company has a project that requires a large number of employees, they will get in touch with you at that time; this is what is known as the current talent reserve system. PS: The average salary for ordinary workers in factories in the area is around 5,000 to 6,000; so what’s the point of going to school then? When it comes to reading, one must consider the long-term effects. Although they can’t compete with ordinary workers at the moment, those workers are merely earning money while they are young; once they get older, no one will pay attention to them anymore.
Reply #32015-06-18
Secondly, I didn’t apply for a position at their company at all; they were the ones who approached me. So did they not even want me at all? I don’t understand it. Why do they try to belittle employees hired through social recruitment to such an extent, while at the same time not hiring recent graduates? What’s the explanation for that?
Reply #42015-06-18
It’s the first time I’ve seen someone think that LZ is me; hehe
Reply #52015-06-18
I remember there was a post in the forum about this topic; it was really good, analyzing the psychology of HR professionals. HR recruitment is about building a company’s talent database for future use ; Additionally, it puts pressure on employees within the company; if they’re not good enough, they’re told to get lost. But it doesn’t have much effect.
Reply #62015-06-18
Because your profile picture and signature are quite eye-catching. :$
Reply #72015-06-18
Reading is still useful; this fact cannot be changed! As for discussing the number of work sessions in an interview, it’s hard to say! So it’s best to find out as much as possible about the company’s employees before going in! Over here, basically everyone knows the people from the companies around us; they’re all classmates, fellow townspeople, or friends of friends. So no company will lower the price during the interview; it’s the regular price. This is what market conditions are like!
Reply #82015-06-18
Laozi hasn’t even given you your salary yet, and you already want to oppress him? I definitely can’t work for a company like this
Reply #92015-06-18
I’ve only had 2 interviews, so I don’t have much experience to share.
Reply #102015-06-18
Now LZ is working at his first company. I replied that the good development of the company and an increase in its market value had nothing to do with the employees. The interviewer was embarrassed and said that indeed it had no relevance. The next day he informed me that I could start working there, and I was the one who set the salary requirements; he said there was no problem with that. It just seems a bit forced. What do you all think?
Reply #112015-06-18
These days, many HR professionals are really difficult to deal with. When I was changing jobs and going for an interview at one company, the HR there said that all their cleaners came from XXX school. I thought the HR in that company was too arrogant, so I left right away. Later on, I found out that they were trying to lower the salary offer, which is why I just left without listening any further.

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