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Problems in the application of GB50183-2015 standard

2016-07-14View Original

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Hello everyone. The \"Code for Fire Protection Design of Oil and Gas Engineering Projects\" GB50183-2015 keeps getting postponed. Although the Ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development has stated that the 2004 version should be used until a new standard is released, design firms and safety assessment agencies still refer to the provisions of the 2015 version. Is this considered an error? Or do the requirements in the new standard exceed those of the old standard, and can they be cited even though they have not been officially implemented?
Reply #22016-08-01
I’ll take it on myself. Expert review opinion: The design needs to be verified in accordance with the requirements of GB 50183-2004.
Reply #32016-08-29
There should be certain aspects for which execution is not possible due to regulatory constraints, as the regulations are outdated
Reply #42016-08-30
Anything that has not been formally implemented does not have legal validity; the current standards and regulations must be followed. Even if a notice has been approved, it is the date of implementation rather than the date of issuance that matters. The legal standards applicable to all design documents are based on the date the contract is signed. If standards and regulations are updated before the design documents are delivered, in principle the design agency should try to follow the new standards, but this is not mandatory. For example: It takes several years to complete the construction of a large chemical plant. If updated regulations suddenly change the requirements regarding fire safety distances, and the design does not provide enough extra space for these distances, it is not possible to ask the builders to demolish everything and start over. However, not all enforcement officers are aware of the requirements set out in the documents issued by the Ministry of Construction; they always try to apply the new standards. I remember the Ministry of Construction having issued documents on this issue. You should look them up yourself
Reply #52016-08-30
Notice from the Standard and Quota Department of the Ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development on Suspending the Implementation of the Standard \"Code for Fire Protection Design of Petroleum and Natural Gas Engineering\" (GB50183-2015) Date: June 28, 2016 [Text size: Large, Medium, Small] [Print] [Close] Document No. Jianbiao 109 To all relevant entities: In order to implement the relevant requirements regarding work safety set by the State Council and to further improve the content of the standard \"Code for Fire Protection Design of Petroleum and Natural Gas Engineering\" GB50183-2015, it has been decided to suspend the implementation of this standard for the time being. Once the latest implementation date for this standard is determined, our company will announce it on the **Engineering Construction Standardization Information Network (www.ccsn.gov.cn)**. Until the implementation date of the new version of the standards is announced, the \"Code for Fire Protection Design of Oil and Gas Engineering\" GB50183-2004 shall continue to be applied; please comply with it. Standard and Quota Department of the Ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development, June 24, 2016
Reply #62016-09-12
It’s designed to high standards, so there will be no non-compliances during future inspections – that’s a good thing, right?
Reply #72018-08-27
This post was last edited by north_star on 2018-8-27 at 14:43. Notice on Adjusting the Implementation Date of the Standard “Code for Fire Protection Design of Petroleum and Natural Gas Engineering” – Document No. 30 issued by the Standards Establishment Department. To all relevant parties: In order to implement the relevant requirements regarding work safety set by the State Council and to further improve the content of the standard “Code for Fire Protection Design of Petroleum and Natural Gas Engineering” (GB 50183-2015), after consideration, the implementation date of this standard has been adjusted from March 1, 2016, to July 1, 2016. Please comply with this change. Department of Standards and Quotas, Ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development, February 23, 2016 – Notice on Suspending the Implementation of the Standard “Code for Fire Protection Design of Petroleum and Natural Gas Engineering” (GB50183-2015) Letter No. Jianbiao Biaofan 109 to all relevant entities: In order to implement the relevant requirements regarding work safety set by the State Council and to further improve the content of the standard “Code for Fire Protection Design of Petroleum and Natural Gas Engineering” GB50183-2015, it has been decided to suspend the implementation of this standard for the time being. Once the latest implementation date for this standard is determined, our company will announce it on the **Engineering Construction Standardization Information Network (www.ccsn.gov.cn)**. Until the implementation date of the new version of the standards is announced, the \"Code for Fire Protection Design of Oil and Gas Engineering\" GB 50183-2004 shall continue to be applied; please comply with it. Standard and Quota Department of the Ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development, June 24, 2016
Reply #82018-08-28
Difficult labor! In a while, the standard numbers will need to be changed as well.
Reply #92018-10-03
It is estimated that a certain large project does not comply with this regulation. Release it after the projects are completed or the standards are changed
Reply #102018-10-12
The practices of design firms are generally sound, as they adhere to high standards; moreover, if new standards are issued and implemented during the project, it is possible to avoid having to modify the design documents
Reply #112018-10-23
If it can influence the modification and implementation of standards, then it is truly a very important project.

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