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Could everyone please **help check what issues there are with the large machine bearings**

2016-09-06View Original

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Main engine oil system of the unit, bearing barring parameters. Time: 2015-4-8 15:00, 2015-5-11 15:00, 2016-3-20 15:00, 2016-6-12 15:00, 2016-8-31 15:00. Main engine lubricating oil pressure: 0.43, 0.426, 0.402, 0.475, 0.478. Lubricating oil temperature: 36.81, 41.34, 1.74, 43.00, 144.47. Jacking oil pressure: 15.85, 15.74, 15.71, 4.38, 16.24. Barring speed: 46.23, 43.48, 49.22, 48.02, 49.23. Temperature of #1 bearing: 137.74, 44.24, 45.94, 43.81, 46.28. Temperature of #1 bearing (2): 36.65, 41.96, 43.37, 43.96, 45.83. Temperature of #1 bearing (3): 41.77, 49.82, 50.46, 49.09, 52.32. Temperature of #1 bearing (4): 39.96, 47.71, 48.54, 7.28, 49.91. Temperature increase: 4.96, 8.52, 8.72, 6.08, 97.85. Temperature of #2 bearing: 141.17, 45.45, 47.64, 3.81, 45.98. Temperature of #2 bearing (2): 39.96, 44.39, 46.69, 43.96, 46.59. Temperature of #2 bearing (3): 45.44, 49.37, 51.11, 45.32, 48.54. Temperature of #2 bearing (4): 45.44, 49.22, 50.81, 46.08, 49.74. Temperature increase: 8.63, 7.92, 9.07, 3.07, 95.27. Temperature of thrust bearings: 137.15, 41.98, 45.53, 44.31, 47.54. Temperature of thrust bearing (2): 36.85, 41.53, 44.93, 44.61, 46.93. Temperature of thrust bearing (3): 37.15, 41.08, 42.82, 44.31, 45.58. Temperature of thrust bearing (4): 36.85, 40.93, 42.51, 43.56, 45.28. Temperature of #3 bearing: 142.12, 44.99, 46.44, 46.12, 54.18. Temperature of #3 bearing (2): 41.52, 45.34, 6.28, 48.23, 56.44. Temperature increase: 4.71, 44.54, 5.22, 911.97. Temperature of #4 bearing: 142.27, 46.31, 47.04, 45.92, 50.3. Temperature of #4 bearing (2): 39.41, 43.94, 4.47, 44.87, 50.15. Temperature increase: 5.46, 5.01, 5.32, 2.91, 95.83. Temperature of #5 bearing: 139.11, 44.05, 44.63, 45.47, 46.83. Temperature of #5 bearing (2): 43.02, 46.76, 48.55, 44.72, 46.98. Temperature increase: 6.21, 5.46, 6.81, 1.71, 92.51. Temperature of #6 bearing: 143.42, 50.28, 51.11, 46.91, 53.05. Temperature increase: 6.61, 8.98, 9.37, 3.90, 98.58. Temperature of #7 bearing: 140.81, 45.55, 46.39, 45.04, 51.63. Temperature increase: 44.25, 4.65, 2.03, 97.16. Temperature of #8 bearing: 135.79, 39.52, 41, 42.46, 44.12. As shown in the table above, 1) The bearing temperature refers to the temperature of the bearing metal; 2) Temperature increase is the difference between this value and the lubricating oil temperature. I would like to ask everyone, can we identify any problems with the bearings based on this information? I can only see that the temperature at measurement point 3 of bearing #1 is the highest, while the temperature at measurement point 2 is generally the lowest. Could it be that there is some uneven wear?
Reply #22016-09-06
What problems can arise from such low temperatures?
Reply #32016-09-06
Oh, isn’t this the data from when the machine was rotating? So with a low temperature, is it really impossible to detect any problems?
Reply #42016-09-06
For the million-unit unit, it underwent a Type B maintenance session after shutting down on March 20. After this maintenance, the temperature rise when rotating bearing #3 was 12°C, which is more than 6 degrees higher than before the maintenance – could the center position have changed? . .
Reply #52016-09-06
It’s not obvious; let’s check again in a few days
Reply #62016-09-06
Thank you all**; I just hope to try and speculate about some possible problems
Reply #72016-09-06
This post was last edited by zjiefire on 2016-9-6 at 16:22. Here are some additional details: Date of adjustment: 2016-3-20 at 5:25; before adjustment, and 2016-8-29 at 5:27 after adjustment. Rotational speed of the crankshaft: 49.376 to 48.719; lubricating oil temperature: 41.997 to 44.465; thrust shaft oil temperature: 40.163 to 44.465; thrust shaft oil pressure: 15.696 to 16.129; water temperature in the open system: 20.808 to 25.715. Oil return temperature for Bearing #1: 46.491 to 49.216; vibration level of Bearing #1 in μm: 32.658 to 23.998; highest temperature reached by Bearing #1: 51.124 to 52.773. Oil return temperature for Bearing #2: 43.262 to 45.288; vibration level of Bearing #2 in μm: 36.053 to 33.077; highest temperature reached by Bearing #2: 51.624 to 48.489. Oil return temperature for Bearing #3: 41.617 to 46.428; vibration level of Bearing #3 in μm: 9.636 to 10.666; highest temperature reached by Bearing #3: 46.748 to 54.028. Oil return temperature for Bearing #4: 42.313 to 44.971; vibration level of Bearing #4 in μm: 7.595 to 8.644; highest temperature reached by Bearing #4: 47.503 to 50.103. Oil return temperature for Bearing #5: 42.503 to 44.971; vibration level of Bearing #5 in μm: 7.088 to 8.644; highest temperature reached by Bearing #5: 48.861 to 46.632. Oil return temperature for Bearing #6: 42.064 to 33.452; vibration level of Bearing #6 in μm: 34.203 to 35.252; highest temperature reached by Bearing #6: 51.415 to 33.148. Oil return temperature for Bearing #7: 36.308 to 43.452; vibration level of Bearing #7 in μm: 18.124 to 15.644; highest temperature reached by Bearing #7: 46.405 to 51.158. Oil return temperature for Bearing #8: 35.992 to 40.795; vibration level of Bearing #8 in μm: 13.031 to 16.635; highest temperature reached by Bearing #8: 41.018 to 43.616
Reply #82016-09-06
What a professional field. What kind of engine is it? Our company’s million-unit units are also just makeshift; it’s absolutely impossible to reach such a level. I need to learn well from the original poster*
Reply #92016-09-08
Yes, a 1000MW thermal power plant, steam turbine generator set. Because the high and low pressure cylinders of modern million-unit turbines are much more precise than those of older turbines, making them overall smaller in size. As a result, even minor issues with the shafting or bearings can have significant consequences, and repairing such problems is also very costly. . .

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