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Should the SIS interlock be activated in case of a loss of instrument signal?

2021-12-14View Original

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As shown in the figure, it is an interlock device signal based on temperature, pressure, and an emergency button; both of the input values set are HH. However, I have considered whether a signal disconnection or short circuit in the instrument, resulting in a loss of monitoring, would cause the interlock to activate If it isn’t implemented, does that mean there is no protection? If implemented, can such logic meet the requirements? Thank you~!
Reply #22021-12-14
The fail-safe type must definitely operate when the signal is lost. But on the other hand, I wonder if the level of reliability at this point is sufficient; perhaps a majority-of-three voting system should be employed?
Reply #32021-12-14
If the signal is lost, the SIS system must take action; if it happens to reach a very high value, wouldn’t that be dangerous?
Reply #42021-12-15
If no action is taken, then what’s the point of making such settings? It is itself a logical circuit; regardless of whether the signal is true or false, interlocking is triggered once the conditions are met!
Reply #52021-12-15
Yes, in my previous job I worked in power plants where there was a high level of signal redundancy; signal loss would cause the equipment to shut down. But this is a reactor, and I decided to use just these 2 variables, with HH as the trigger condition. I also suggested a \"three-out-of-two\" mechanism for the industrial control design, but since this is a reactor, there are no extra openings available, and making changes would incur high costs.
Reply #62021-12-15
I don’t quite understand it either; it involves on-site maintenance of hardware instruments, and I’m also learning about the software aspect
Reply #72021-12-15
What you say makes sense, but what I mean is which internal program triggers an action when a signal is lost – that’s the concept. In industrial control design, a loss of signal does not trigger interlocks
Reply #82021-12-15
Yes, given the condition of protection, loss of monitoring should trigger it. What I don’t understand is through which signal input it gets triggered; isn’t it taken from HH? I don’t see it mentioned that it’s lost; I’m not very familiar with this software, so I hope you can help~ Thank you
Reply #92021-12-15
If it’s for SIS, a proper hazop/LOPA analysis must be conducted first to determine how many points or just one point is needed to ensure achievement of the desired SIL level; the associated instruments also need to meet the required standards – it can’t be decided arbitrarily. However, power plants generally don’t have SIS, so this process doesn’t exist. But ESD and things like that are similar as well.
Reply #102021-12-15
The input signal should be adjustable, that is, to determine what value appears on the channel when the signal is lost; otherwise, the way the program is written will need to be changed

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