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Discussion on the date of technical documents for petrochemical project handover

2017-05-15View Original

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Discussion on the date of preparation of handover documents for installation projects in the petrochemical and chemical industries: 1. What is the correct sequence in which the completion dates should be filled in for these five forms – sub-project acceptance records, section project acceptance records, unit project acceptance records, handover certificates, and project completion certificates? (1) One view is that handover can only take place after the acceptance of each individual project, but the standards permit handover even if some items have not been accepted; in such cases, the conditions for accepting the individual projects are not met. (2) Another view is that the acceptance of individual items is carried out after the overall handover is completed. Then, what documents does the requirement in SH/T3508-2011 for \"review and verification of preliminary quality inspection documents and relevant commissioning records\" refer to under the concept of \"completing nine tasks and carrying out five handovers\"? Inspection lot? 2. What are the requirements regarding the time intervals between the above acceptance procedures? Everyone is welcome to discuss and provide guidance! :lol
Reply #22017-05-21
Let’s push a little more – isn’t there anyone who wants to share their opinion?
Reply #32017-05-27
Here’s a simple answer: 1. The chronological order should be: inspection lot—sub-project—sectional project—unit project acceptance record—handover certificate from the relevant authorities—project completion certificate (final acceptance); 2. The preliminary inspection documents for project quality mainly refer to the quality assessment of individual components and whole projects ; Intermediate handover (sometimes also referred to as mechanical completion) is merely a transfer of custody responsibilities; it does not relieve the construction contractor of its duties. Handover despite unfinished tasks is permitted, and this does not affect the quality assessment. 3. The evaluation time for individual construction tasks is carried out after the completion of the three inspections and four determinations; thereafter, intermediate handovers can take place. The completion of the project is determined based on the time when the owner’s requirements regarding material supply and coordinated operations are met.
Reply #42017-05-27
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Reply #52017-05-31
Thank you for your answer. Since CCCC allows for unfinished work, does that mean that the construction isn’t complete, and thus it doesn’t meet the conditions for acceptance at the sub-item or sub-division level? For example, in the adiabatic section, the insulation of valves must be carried out after thermal tightening is completed; and thermal tightening is part of the hot commissioning process, which can only take place after the mechanical installation is finished. If an inspection for this section is conducted, will the supervisor sign off on it? If the supervisor agrees to sign, what procedures should be followed and what documents are required for the inspection after the valve box has been installed? Please answer again, thank you!
Reply #62017-06-05
It’s all friends from engineering companies; the discussions are really professional
Reply #72017-06-23
Please ask this contestant to share their opinion
Reply #82017-09-01
There’s no need to worry about this; in reality, a strict nine-to-five work schedule is impossible to achieve. In other words, if a nine-to-five work schedule is truly to be implemented, it will take at least half a year or more before such a schedule can be achieved. This is detrimental to both the project managers and the construction parties.
Reply #92017-09-21
This post was last edited by sky_REFW on 2017-9-21 at 10:22: Inspection lot—Sub-item work—Sub-divisional work—Unit project acceptance records—Interim handover certificates—Project delivery—Final acceptance. Based on my understanding of SH3904, the relationship among the last four items should be as follows: the acceptance of individual projects and the intermediate handovers should be completed simultaneously. At this point, the project is handed over to the construction party, which proceeds with the preparations for trial production. One of the prerequisites for project completion is the trial production of qualified products. So, from the handover in the middle to the completion of the project, there is at least the time for trial production in between. Article 3904 specifies that the organization responsible for the handover of the project is the project owner, while the organization responsible for the completion inspection is the authority that approved the project (i.e., the department that gave the approval to initiate the project, usually the Development and Reform Commission or the Economic and Information Technology Commission) or an entity entrusted by it; this is what indicates this point. Handover and completion acceptance are not the same thing. Looking at the prerequisites for both, in addition to completing the handover of the project, the facilities for protecting workers from occupational diseases, as well as the environmental protection and safety facilities, must also pass the inspection. Therefore. The completion acceptance is also delayed by some time compared to the handover acceptance. The poster’s logic is that “if a task isn’t completed, it can’t be accepted,” and upon closer examination, this is indeed the case. The reality is as the friend who mentioned the \"west wind and thin horse\" version said. Refer to the \"SHT3904-2014 Regulations on the Completion Acceptance of Petrochemical Construction Projects\"
Reply #102017-10-09
My logic is that \"a task remains unfinished once it’s handed over, and it cannot be accepted until it’s finished.\" Therefore, my understanding is as follows: 1. The intermediate handover is a procedure that is separate from the acceptance processes for individual tasks, sub-projects, or entire projects; there is no chronological sequence between this process and those three types of acceptance, and it involves only the transfer of responsibility for use and maintenance, with no quality inspection taking place. 2. At the time of project handover and acceptance, each individual project must pass the acceptance process; the sequence is: quality acceptance record for the individual project – project handover – final acceptance

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